Benedict Koehler American Ironwood Chanter with one key

Patrick D'Arcy · Post by **Patrick D'Arcy** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:11 pm

Steampacket wrote:The bottom D sounds very off on the video though, probably a new reed that just needs adjusting

Now Thomas, what have I told you about speaking in public after smoking your craic pipe?

PD.

Davey · Post by **Davey** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:33 pm

No way, that bottom D is spot on at 293.7 Hz exactly...nothing even remotely flat there.

Paul Reid · Post by **Paul Reid** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:48 pm

I've got to say, when Benedict played that for me live, it was so *bleep*ing beautiful and crisp - this is a very special chanter folks.

Steampacket · Post by **Steampacket** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:46 am

"No way, that bottom D is spot on at 293.7 Hz exactly...nothing even remotely flat there."

Hmm, well something sounds dodgy there to my ears. Doesn't sound in tune with the other notes. Strange. I am the only one who hears this and dares to speak up. Doth I blaspheme perchance

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:10 am

Blasphemer! Burn him, BURN HIM!!!

Wizzer · Post by **Wizzer** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:49 am

If you have a serious question on the Chanter Ben will answer it. He does not have Email however so you will have to call him at his shop.
802.229.0315 (Shop)

Davey · Post by **Davey** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:07 am

..blasphemer...heh...

Hmm...it may indeed be off, its difficult to tell precisely (for me) as the low-quality recording (sorry Paul..no offense intended!) sounded quite distorted. Rather than go through the subjective "sounds to me" I just ran it through my pc tuner and noted the Hertz ratings when the sampling rate was able to pick up individual notes.

By all means, the best solution would be to ask B.K. himself.

Steampacket · Post by **Steampacket** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:37 am

"Hmm...it may indeed be off, its difficult to tell precisely (for me) as the low-quality recording (sorry Paul..no offense intended!) sounded quite distorted. Rather than go through the subjective "sounds to me" I just ran it through my pc tuner and noted the Hertz ratings when the sampling rate was able to pick up individual notes" D.

"If you have a serious question on the Chanter Ben will answer it ..." Wizz

The bottom note is off to my ears - there is no hard D, that's what sounds "strange" when you'd normally expect it to be there, but it's not. As stated earlier it's probably been fixed/adjusted by now - I have no other serious questions about the chanter. Again fair play to Ben for helping out

djm · Post by **djm** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:56 am

Perhaps the sound is off due to a). amount of compression required to to be able to broadcast on the net, b). some loss or transmission errors during broadcast over the net. I would not trust any lossy recording format like mp3 or mp4 over the net.

djm

tompipes · Post by **tompipes** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:45 am

This sounds like a great chanter.
The body of it looks like a Leo Rowsome chanter that Mick O'Brien used to have, similar turning, that is
Sounds a bit like it too.

I just had my ears de-waxed and I can hear a hard D fine. In fact theres a few.
And the big long D that the tune ends on, thats hard.

I'm sure whoever buys it will be happy for years to come.
Best of luck to Jerry too!
Tommy

What do you call a "D" with a flick-knife and a leather jacket?
A "Hard D"

Ba-bum-tisch
Yes folks we're here all week..........

Chadd · Post by **Chadd** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:22 am

Steampacket wrote:Hmm, well something sounds dodgy there to my ears.

I hear two dodgy things going on, and neither have anything to do with the chanter. The first is lossy digital compression artifacting (lending that dizzy, swimmy feeling) and the second is comb filtering from recording in a small, reflective room. Both could veil one's perception of pitch, especially on something as rich in overtones as a hard D. For the chanter to still sound this good through all the murky soup, I'll bet the real thing would knock your socks off.

djm · Post by **djm** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:39 am

TPipes wrote:What do you call a "D" with a flick-knife and a leather jacket?
A "Hard D"

Actually, there was these two brothers, boys actually, and they used to get into these suspicious moods, and they'd investigate, and then they'd get into all these adventures ....

djm

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:40 am

...ouch.....

Paul Reid · Post by **Paul Reid** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:13 pm

All good points above - but maybe it's one of those things - you had to be there for. There were 4 digital processes before the video was published, it was recorded on video tape on a consumer product - Panasonic Mini DV - with the on-camera microphone. This is not meant for a detailed critique by ANY stretch. The purpose, fellows, is to have a basic listen to a chanter played in living colour by one of our extraordinarily talented contemporaries. Did y'all notice the second octave?? Guys, and Girls, this one will be one to remember, trust me. It'll make your liver quiver and your spine shiver

Kearnybagpiper · Post by **Kearnybagpiper** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:19 pm

Anybody want to wager how much this chanter will go for? My guess is $1650.

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Benedict Koehler American Ironwood Chanter with one key

bottom D

Benedict Koehler will answer any questions

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